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    Outputting 470 oz-in and transiting in 0.091 sec/60° the DS470BLHV standard-size digital servo is well suited for 150-200cc powered IMAC aircraft from the likes of Carden, AJ Aircraft, and Extreme Flight as well as rock crawlers like TRX4 and Wraith II.

    Initially created for our military and industrial UAS customers (primarily drones with infrared sensors for pipeline inspection as well as LIDAR equipped sensors for ag work), civilian users include professional builders and competitors on the lookout for an edge. Offered for your consideration, this brushless digital servo will deliver roughly 30 pounds of force, and do so very, very precisely.


    This is a hotly contested class with competitors offering servos with similar output. Examples can be found made by the big 3 (Futaba, JR, and Hitec) plus a host of newer players, like MKS, BK, and ProModeler.

    Once you get into the target range of 500oz-in (about 32Kg-cm) we all fine tune things with gearing. Obviously there's a direct trade-off between torque and speed. For example, you can either opt for a bit more torque at the expense of speed, and the corollary, more speed in exchange for some torque.

    You want this servo because it's better. For example, unlike hobby-grade competitors, these are hand-crafted to meet MIL-STD-810G-Part 16 (Vibration) Test Method 514.6 as well as Test Method 516.6 (shock). While it's unlikely the frame of your model will ever transmit jolts to your servos like those imparted by impacting 20mm rounds, modelers know all about crashes and engines vibrations. This alone is reason enough to want this servo.

    Of course, delivering munitions on target isn't of keen interest to professional drivers, either but the durability of this servo is a big deal. What makes it ideal for the torturous duty cycle involved in crawling a 15lb rig over rip-rap an agile man could only traverse with difficulty - and at the risk of breaking an ankle - is a case CNC-machined from a solid billet of 6061-T6 aircraft aluminum. But there's more because the pockets where the steel gear shafts fit have been bushed with bronze to enhance durability!


    If you fly IMAC maneuvers, then centering is your single-most important consideration. After all, you can't possibly fly precise maneuvers otherwise. For you, one of the principal reasons for wanting this servo are the MIL-SPEC components and genuine Nobel potentiometer. These are game changers for the sport and while we pioneered their application expressly to suit our largest customer (the one delivering ordnance on a target 8000 miles away via GPS-steering), the intense R&D required just happens to suit your needs as well. Think of it as a little lagniappe derived from your tax dollars at work!



    Once professional builders began using these servos for their discerning customers, and as competitive pilots attending IMAC events used them, then because these guys practice at club fields across the country, interest surged because sportsmen discovered them also. And amongst the especially attentive ones - for whom thoughtful touches like Allen head bolts instead of Phillips screws - was important, our reputation grew. If you have an eye for detail, little things like these are signature characteristics that differentiate ProModeler servos from the rest of the pack!

    Incidentally, this is the 5th iteration of this popular servo. We now consider it a fully mature product. Meanwhile, yet another example of how a ProModeler servo is the one you want is found in how it's protected from vibration. Competing servos depend on a little square of foam rubber sandwiched between the PCB and the bottom cover (to isolate the guts from vibration). We use an aerospace conformal coating instead (we call it monkey-snot because it's such a sticky mess to deal with and apply).

    We also pay close attention to things like dust, water, and exhaust-oil resistance. How? Through the use of 13 O-rings for sealing. Why so many? It's because truly protecting the insides from the environment means using there must be an O-ring everywhere, at the splined output shaft where it exits the case, where the three case components come together to become one, and even beneath the 10 individual screw heads!

    For example, what if while you're flying a pop-up rain shower develops before you can land? Or maybe you love to fly off water! This means protecting the servo's guts from the environment is important, right? After all, we know how pernicious water can be with respect to getting inside the servo. And this is important for all users . . .even if you never intend to take your servo underwater! But if you do plan to play submarine, then read the askJohn article regarding how to make them more water-resistant with a couple easy steps.



    Better components. Better servos. The formula is simple. Decisions regarding what go into ProModeler servos aren't made in accounting to optimize price and profit, but in engineering. This servo doesn't cost less to make than our competitors, it costs more. The reasonable price is due entirely to a better business model. One that eschews the old way of doing things (importer + distributor + hobby dealers) because they all get a cut (at your expense). With us, you're the one doing the cutting . . . because you cut these middlemen out of the deal in buying direct!

    Bottom line? These servo make good sense even if you 'are' made of money. But if you're on a budget, then many modelers consider them a godsend!


    Note: operating voltage is 4.8-8.4V, but optimal performance is obtained with a 2S LiPo instead of a BEC. This is because LiPos deliver the required current without voltage spikes, noise, or otherwise adversely affecting the delicate avionics (25C or better is recommended). After all, synthetic orange colored Tang may have gone to the moon, but it doesn't compare to freshly squeezed orange juice. Same thing when it comes to feeding your avionics!

    Other Resources

    For detailed specifications and dimension drawings, select the Specs tab above. Also, there's an even-handed look at the competition in the Comparison tab. Meanwhile, TL;DR is chock full of nitty-gritty details so if you love delving deeply into stuff some find too tedious to read, don't overlook this tab. Anyway, eyeball the Specs TAB above and see how well they match up with your requirements, then pull the trigger and add a set to your cart. You're going to love them!

    FAQ

    Q. Is it normal for the ProModeler DS470 to get fairly warm, almost hot to the touch, after 25-30 min of crawling? I set my endpoints after I first installed making sure no binding was occurring.

    A. If there is no binding, no problem . . . and yes, it's going to get hot - of course! For example, depending on how hard it's working you may be dissipating 35W, maybe more. Ever touched a 35W light bulb? Burned your finger, right? The formula for power is W=V*A so plug in for Voltage, make an educated guess on Amperage (if you don't have an inline meter), then solve for Watts. Presto, you get a lot of heat! The point is, you can't get 470oz-in of force without a lot of power. Power means heat. Always has, always will.

    Q. Sometimes when I rotate my DS470 back and forth by hand (with the power off)it reaches the stop and then gets stuck and won't move. I've never had a servo do this before, do I need to return it for service?

    A. This is not unusual with the DS470 and doesn't indicate any fault. It's a trick of the gear ratio and the servo motor. If you've ever spun a brushless motor by hand you'll recall the feel of 'cogging' as it hits the poles of the magnets. What's happening is the stop for the servo works because of a pin in the output gear (we bore the gear and press a pin into place designed to hit a mechanical stop. However, what may happen as you turn it by hand (which is a bad idea anyway because you're forcing it backwards through 402:1 gear ratio using gears with tiny teeth), anyway, what happens is you hit the stop and this happens at about zero velocity. So what with four gears in the gear train (consisting of meshes between 8 working surfaces), is it may occur between teeth, or really close, and what with the backlash (for gear sets to work, even if they're the transmission of a million dollar Formula 1 car, there is a certain amount of backlash because it's the nature of how gears mate) plus the need to overcome the cogging in the motor itself is it gets stuck. The solution is to apply power and let it center itself - and stop forcing the gears back and forth manually! You don't want to get in the habit of doing this because it's not how servo gear trains are designed to work. Anyway, this won't ever happen under power, and during use . . . so there's no problem!

    Overall Customer Rating of 44 Reviews:
    Lexington,Tn

    So far so good

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    • Holds up to abuse
    • So shiny!
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    • wish I havnt waisted money on others
    Had my bomber out a few times so far with the new servo. We drive hard and have some hard hits to the front in flips. Haven't had any issues with the PM 470. If I was to do it again I’d get the stronger servo they offer. My rig is around 8lbs and run aluminum wheels with xl tsl’s.

    Kentucky

    A must for crawlers with big tires

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    Hands down the best servo you can buy for crawlers. I have two of these steering servos in two different TRX-4s with 2.2s and I've never been able to bind them up. I've been extremely impressed.

    Wow!!

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    I ordered this servo on Friday at 2:40pm and rec’d it THE FOLLOWING MONDAY. I’ve never received a order that fast. I hooked the servo up at lunch, set my endpoints, and took my trx4 sport for a spin on my backyard course. Very impressive @ 8.4v. Quiet, quick, and strong. Will be ordering another in the future.




    Wrong servo

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    You guys actually sent me wrong servo...I didn't get the 470, you guys sent me the 340 one.

    Excellent

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    I just ordered 6 servos Wednesday evening. DS470 brushless. The servos look and feel quite substantial. They have some heft, a real feeling of quality. I've not used them yet as they just came in this morning! Ordered Wed and Thursday morning I got a message that they had been shipped. Very timely call backs for info and as much friendly information as you can stand on the phone. Verbose I know, but I cant say enough about how impressed I am.